RC ATHLETES – CEN Racing F450 Review, Stock Run AND Brushless Upgrade!!
You guys already know what this is. This is the sun racing truck. I think they call it a custom truck. I don’t have the box there isn’t a manual for it, yet i got this from medic. He got two of them. He gave one to me and one to his buddy dan uh. I extremely appreciative about it, because this truck is way more than i thought it was going to be coming out of the box, because, if you’re going to watch or if you want uh a link to medic’s channel because he’s already done the opening with me and Dan and we’ve ripped up the trucks there won’t be a link there type it in yourself, so uh many people have already done an unboxing on this thing. I’Ll tell you what i’ve, what my thoughts are so far because that’s been the main thing is: what is it what’s it going to be used for and to me, it’s going to be straight up. Basically, a racing truck or a drifting truck i’ve had a lot of fun with it drifting. I might go that way. Some kind of on road here i’ll tell you the main reason why one um, if you’re, going to try and turn this into an off road truck suspension, is going to be number one and that’s a big problem. They’Ve done a cantilever system which isn’t bad because it stops the torque twist from happening right. So there’s not much body roll at all, so it’s against mainly set up for street racing now the other problem, if you’re going to turn it into a trail truck, basically to get bigger, tires on it, which you would do because these tires will not work well Off road, you can still do a dually, you can still screw them together, just like they did it’s a very, very uh.
Not i don’t want to say low end, but it’s the simplest way to make it as uh dually is what they’ve done, because all six wheels are the exact same wheel. They just back to back them and screw them together and then bolt them onto your standard. 12 mil battery in the back don’t matter, 1040 esc. I think it is from hobbywing yeah the 1040.. They both get really hot. After what i’ve done with it, they both get really hot, so it is geared on the highest one. It could be done to the lowest one, but i’m still going to play with that, because i might try. I should have got this ready. I do have a set of drip tires from from an hpi, but i think they’re going to be too small. For this thing, hi molly i’m not doing anything under the table molly’s under there and i’m petting her right baby. You need your own channel. Get over here go on get. I love you too. Okay back to the truck 17 and a half inch wheelbase, um, again, not great for a trail truck if it had another axle, uh like 11 and a half or 12 inches sure great trail truck that’s. Another problem with it now the one that just hit me this morning, as i was sitting on another chair, the suspension system linked no problem. I think it’s three link front rear, yeah sterling front rear, big ass, long links in the rear, which makes it kind of look like a show truck or a custom truck seam and truck whatever you want to call it in like that.
Now you got your carrier bearing or whatever it’s called uh hanger, bearing, i think, it’s also known as the problem with this setup and it’s, not a huge. I guess it’s a bit of a huge native, because i don’t know how to fix it. I’M sure there’s going to be other guys who know how to fix it out there, but i don’t off the top my noggin um that’s. Why medic turns his phone off when he does videos the only other pro the problem to make it off road is which i’m sure you’ve thought about it? Now that i had that quick, little pause uh if you’re going to put bigger shocks on it for bigger clearance, these dog bones don’t extend they’re just going to pop out, so you would need to leave it, as is which means you can jack the out of The body you can get, i don’t know they got a few more posts. You can probably get another inch out of the rear post and the front, so you can raise the body up like another inch to get bigger tires on it. If that’s all you want to do to go off road and lock it up, because the dips are open, you’re gon na have to lock it up, but you can’t change, really much about the suspension system. So your articulation is pretty poo like if you lift up the front it don’t take long for the back to lift same if you go to the back right because it’s the same suspension system.
So everything about this leans towards on road which i’m okay with because i don’t have much for on road vehicles and a 110 scale, really nothing um, so that’s about it. For my coverage of it or my initial thoughts on it because i’m, a trail guy and if i’m going to trail it they have to jack the out of the body to put bigger, tires on and then lock up the dips and, of course, change. Electronics. Because some of you guys out there and it’s totally doable just not out of the box, it is not a tow rig to start. You know they got a hitch on the rear, that’s, basically flush with their damn near flush, with their rear, tires and it’s way. Past the back so there’s that so your hitch mount is back there, so you’re inches inches away from having that hitch work, and i think they did this part to save money, which i don’t blame them at the same bumper in the front, which means this could Be towed behind something else. Maybe i don’t know um. The chassis is adjustable both front and rear. I don’t know how much adjustment you can get out of it. I would say it’s, probably about you, could go one screw forward or one screw back on the front. End and in the rear you get a little more room. You can go two screws forward or one screw back to make it even longer.
I guess you’d have to move the links as well. No that doesn’t make sense. No, if you move it back, you’d have to buy a different drive. Shaft drive. Shafts are a bit of a killer. You almost can’t mess with the drivetrain there. We go. You almost can’t mess with the drivetrain much at all because of those freaking dog bone style. Shafts i don’t know if i’m saying that right but that’s what i would call those styles of shafts that’s a bit of a kicker again, i should have got those drift tires out before. Where are they they’re tiny, though i don’t know if they’ll go on hold on yeah, i found them it’s not going to work not with these ones. Anyways they go on there it’s. Just these tires four inches, just a certain type of hair under four inches. These guys are about two and five, no sixteenths that right, seven sixteenths, just under two and a half inches a little small. I don’t know much about drift tires, so there could be bigger drift tires out there. I think they’re gon na have to go down to action today and see if they sell lights. I don’t know if you guys can tell, but this led’s blinking at me so i’m trying to get better light down here, but i suck at that other than that. Let’S see counter lever suspension, you can’t really lengthen the suspension off. Just here you go seems to be working good.
Now the batteries and spring were lined up greatly. All right, so i don’t know what tooth opinion that is actually it’s pretty chunky. Again, i don’t have a manual and i’ve done zero research on this thing. Medic text me: hey man, if you’re not doing anything, tuesday, i’m gon na do an unboxing of a truck. You might get one out of it. I’M, like all right, cool i’m in what is it, i don’t know what he says and now i know what so yeah i’d say. Street truck, but uh let’s see one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine ten looks like a ten tooth. I do not have a nine tooth, which wouldn’t make a big difference. Let’S face it. I think it needs a different motor and esc, because this truck is gon na get punished and just by the amount of punishment i put it through already, both out at medic’s place and just out on the street. Captain calgary trevor was here yesterday and we i took it out to the street to show him he was blown away as well, because out of the box dropping a three cell on a dean’s plug this thing will keep up to a brush to slash, i think, Like i can’t put a kilometers on it because i’m, not that keen or i’m, not that good at judging a vehicle speed, but i got a 3 800 kv brushless in the digger. I bet you it’s almost as fast as the digger traction is horrible.
On this thing, even with dualies in the back, you can do donuts on concrete or payment, which i’m going to try here in a bit. Let’S figure i’d start down here in the basement i’m going to head down to action i’m going to if they got a really cheap brushless system like not cheap but inexpensive like another hobby wing system, maybe something with a lower kb, 2 cell 3 cell and some Larger either drift tires or street tires, because i think this thing’s going to remain street. For me, this is one of those rigs where you kind of want two of them, so you can do different things with like like when the wraith first came out like 11 or 12 years ago, whatever it is now 10 years ago, i needed i built two Of them, because i needed one that crawled and i needed one that was a rocket like one – was great for articulation and rock crawling and the other one was brushless. If you weren’t going full speed, it would overheat because it wasn’t enough wind anyways. This is something that i would almost want. Two of one to jack, the out of the body put bigger, tires on it. Lock it up gear, it weigh the hell down with it with a low kb motor or a very high turn brushed motor because that transmission right, i still got to play with that gear inside i’ve, switched this one into a high gear and i think i’m, going To put it back to low gear but i’ll find out after today, because i think after i do this i’m going to head down to action, see pat and cara and see what i can get for tires and motor and esc that are inexpensive, maybe a actually It says this is a sad box servo now that uh, i see a sticker on this side of it.
So maybe i won’t need a servo, because i trust the sandbox here. Well, i don’t know if that’s a saver or not it looks like it is other than that. I think that’s about all i can think of for now the battery tray you might have to get yanked out of there for a different one, because i don’t know if my big three cell will fit in there. Well, it looks like it will: that’s a big ass 3000 or 5000 mah, three cell hard case yeah she’ll fit in there, no problem bigger tree than the traxxas trx4, no that’s, not right. I take that back yeah. So i wanted to talk about tire suspension. Gearing is really high and you guys would say it could be a tow rig, not not as it is. It would need a way, more torque your system and definitely in first gear, with the smallest pin you could possibly find. I don’t know what the gear ratio is and the diffs again i haven’t done much research on this thing, but i’m i’m straight up street truck on this one. So far you know i i’m i’m, a off road guy. I love! I love crawlers. I love mudding. I love rock crawling water love water yeah. This thing’s, not that’s, not the life that this thing is destined for this thing’s gon na be destined for the street. So if i’m gon na go street almost got to keep the wheels, you know because it’s flashy it’s nice it’s a nice truck.
I think they’re going to come in about four bills for right now, yeah i’m done talking i’m heading down to action, see what i get for it. I’Ll see you guys in a bit all right, rc lovers and people just got back from action. It went good and bad so right now on the shelf, the lowest kv that a less than 200 dollar combo for brushless system they got is a uh 3800 kv castle, which is a great system. I have no issues with it it’s just that, ah, is that going to fix the problem. I want to go. Brushless it’s just pat’s, going to see what he’s got at home and maybe i’ll buy something awesome. Personally. Instead of an action, it would have came from action, anyways i’m, going to go outside no i’m. Not maybe, i am, let me think, i’m debating them, because i don’t like doing the in the street in front of my house, because people park, like idiots and there’s only like one vehicle space between vehicles and i don’t – want to drive this top speed between vehicles. Down the street i’m not overly worried about damaging the real car, because if i hit anything it’s going to be steel and it’s going to break the truck, not the car. So what i should do is pack up some tools and motors and i’ll go find a parking lot somewhere and do a couple of speed runs and see.
If i can figure out what motor or kv i want to go with this thing, i’ll fall in no way falling, knowing full well that this transmission is still in high gear, which i will probably end up. Switching it back down because i like torque more than i do speed, um okay time will tell hold on upstairs but anywho i’m. I love the tires and wheels more and more the more. I look at it, the more i like it, the more i drive it. The more i like it, it’s very stable it’s got enough power it’s fast. It handles great the savage servos fast out of the box. I like it thanks thanks, medic i’m, going to talk to send racing and medic, because i need somebody else to have one of these aside from me: hey guys, all right, so i got the truck out of the house now. The weird thing about this thing is i’m, the only one who has one right now, so i can’t really invite people to come out and try this thing with me, because there’s other people that don’t have one yet but i’m here at five star, bingo i’m gon Na get this thing a rip stock, as is on a three cell and it’s still in high gear, because i still haven’t put it to low, because i pick myself up a brushless system for it. So after i do this with a brush system, i’m gon na go home swap out to the brushless and then we’ll give her a go.
All right see yahoo Music, nice, foreign dang, it Music, Music, oh so far away so i’m wondering if i lock that rear diff will it roll over less or more. I need somebody else to do it: Music, first, damn it so after about five minutes of pretty hard going yeah, that motor is pretty hot esc, almost as hard as the motor and that’s only after five minutes of run time. That’S, why we’re getting ourselves a brushless system in there let’s go? Do it hey guys? Okay? So if my editing is coming together, half ass accurately um you’ve already watched me do a little bit of a blabble, and then i went out for a rip with a stock system. Now i got the truck back at home again and uh just before. I continue on. I just want to say thanks to all the new guys who are coming over, that uh yesterday on the trail run with medic. He was coming into town, and i had just luckily called him to ask him a question about this thing. Actually is like: when can i get another one and uh turns out it’s a long time, but uh hi molly, but uh? What was i gon na say? Oh yeah uh, just thanks for all the new subs thanks to medic for giving me a shout out. I didn’t expect that, because just before he turned the camera on, he goes. I got a plan for you today.
I know what you got going on turns on the camera and his mission was to get me to twenty thousand, which i’m getting close to. I think one more thousand to go or a thousand and a half cool. So thank you and welcome to the show uh all right back to the send racing truck, stop breathing on me, it’s hot, get out of here ready, um right. So i just went for a tour with it. I the only issues i have with it as a stock truck really is it gets too hot too fast, because when i was out there, i i looked at the gopro and it said five minutes and nine seconds and still it’s not 100. Go that time. So it’s, probably actually only about four minutes of run time with in high gear still in the transmission yeah, i got motor’s still warm and i’ve already driven home and i eat a sandwich and went to the washroom and washed my hands and bro. Excuse me all right, so i’m gon na rip out the motor and the esc and we’re gon na go with a dynamite. So i got this from uh pat not recommended for children under 14.. So i got this from pat at action hall because i went there yesterday and i didn’t really have anything that was in my price range or the kv. I would want so pat’s like. Let me check it home i’m clearing out some stuff, and i think i have no brushless system that he was going to use in his vetera twin hammers that’s, getting old.
Now i think and yeah he just never uses. So i got both the motor and esc. I don’t know why i almost feel nervous, it’s, weird um, typical esc, nothing, nothing too special about it. I hope it’s waterproof, not that i’m going to drive this thing in the water too much nice brushless. Can that weighs almost nothing, and that makes me worried a little bit but i’m going to get those electronics in there and then, when i go out i’m going to run the same pinion i’m going to start with 2 cell, then i’ll go up to three cell And possibly i might slam this thing down. If i can because see if i can avoid rollovers all right, give me a few minutes, so i just found a bit of a design flaw cameras on a tripod i don’t feel like. Maybe i do it’s all right. There we are see the bottom screw there for the motor. I even got a ball end on it. I tried getting a ball end on it, but even then you just can’t get the angle. I know i’m blocking it, but that’s about the best angle. You can get is right there by the receiver box and it’s, not enough for the ball in to grip it. So, in order for me to change out this motor, i actually have to pull the transmission i’m going to call that a design flaw all right back at her system’s in it’s plugged in motors in yeah battery uh it’s got an e3 plug or an e2, whatever Size, this is a3 ec3, whatever controller’s on has a power switch, it has a fan.
Servo sounds unhappy, actually thing’s going to take off. I have no reverse esc calibration let’s. Do that? Okay, so that was a good news, bad news thing or good news. Good news. I guess everything seems to work fine, it was my fault. I did the calibration backwards or not properly neutral forward reverse. I did neutral reverse forward, which made everything goofy but yeah now it’s faster forward than it is reverse. I reprogrammed it all ios outside somebody button up the electronics here, just close the lid and stuff like that, i did lower the shocks to the lowest point. They could it wasn’t much. You only move it over a couple screw holes on each front and back and it lowered it a touch i mean like millimeters, not a lot, but hopefully that helps. I don’t, like the rolling over part, there’s no other place to move the shocks. There’S kind of a place here hold on it’s like this on both the front and rear. Can we get her here? Where am i so right? There excuse me, so you see the shock there on just above the link there’s another spot, but the shock would be on an angle and i don’t think it’s actually supposed to go. There, it’s probably there for a different reason, but maybe slightly shorter shock it’s. Not quite a lot because there’s not a lot of not a lot of give, as there is right like that’s it that’s your throw um yeah is what it is for now, though, right still a nice drawer, all right, yeah, i’ll button, her back up and we’ll Get back out to a parking lot and see what this thing will do all right round two brush this in there.
Everything should be good to go. Oh and after taking this thing apart and putting it back together, again, don’t even think about going through a puddle with this that receiver box isn’t even close to it, isn’t even close to the waterproof, ah yeah, oh well, it’s, definitely more powerful and faster still likes To roll over just as much though Music, oh yeah, nice, oh it was nice yeah, it’s way way faster, oh, come on baby doesn’t really want to do donuts very well. Who can blame it, though? I guess the next step on this thing is going to be suspension. This thing’s awesome Music, so i’m thinking. I should probably order new tires and a body because i’m going to wreck them, both, oh no, all right, so so, 2200 mah, three cell. I know i said: i’d try, two cells, i mean screw that um, this thing’s so wicked. All right let’s do a temperature, tick, motor, ow, really hot esc. I should probably plug that fan back in yep it’s gon na, like that yeah. That motor is really hot. Music, that was interesting quite a quite a bit of fun. I mean yeah. I really like that truck Music, so suspension. I is on the list: it’s not terrible, but i wouldn’t, like i wouldn’t mind, getting it a little bit lower to the ground and other than that that motor is hot. I do have a set of cooling fins for a 540 can at home.
I will definitely put those on there, but i don’t know if it’s gon na be enough. That thing is hot and it’s already got a tent tooth on it. So it’s not like i can gear it any better talk more when i get home all right, so that’s gon na be it for me in this truck. For now i had a blast with it. It is hot out it’s only like 24 degrees and it’s too hot for this guy anyways. This thing got hot as well: the esc wasn’t bad. So i plugged the fan back in that shouldn’t be an issue from now on: hi molly and then the motor got hot. I do have a set of fins i can put on it. That’Ll help out a little bit i’m sure i think i’m going to put this thing back down into low gear, because yeah it’s going to be a big difference. It’S here that or i find like uh, i need a 2200 kv, or so brushless motor pack was right. 33 is a little high and it’s not because of the speed. The speed was perfect. It just gets too hot, so i got to figure out a way to calm the heat down, it’s, probably going to be a higher quality motor with the first speed and the transmission we’ll see where that goes, but that’s going to be it for today. I love this thing if it comes in at 400, bucks that’s a really good price.
For this thing, i had it’s a it’s, a black house, it’s a fun truck to drive zero regrets on this look all right hold on. You guys probably want to see her too come here.